From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Nov 14 10:22:17 2005
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:22:17 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
Message-ID: <330532b60511140722p2cc839c5y8d46ca35d5fd78e5@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

Been quiet over here, as we are finally kicking the 1.1 release into
alpha and that means (drumroll) that it is time to start work on 1.2
:-D

That means I'd like to get some feedback from you on what your
environments are, and what databases you would like to see supported
by the core.

1.2 has our newfangled database connector approach, where each
database gets a native driver. Right now we are planning on providing
drivers for mysql, mysqli, and postgresql.

With that in mind, I got two questions for you:

1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your
production environment?

2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?

Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this work underway!

--
Mitch Pirtle
Joomla! Core Developer
Open Source Matters


From jessica at xanthus.net  Mon Nov 14 16:48:44 2005
From: jessica at xanthus.net (Keayi Cora)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:48:44 -0500
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1131987603.3151.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.3.1131987603.3151.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <4379063C.5040009@xanthus.net>

Hey, Mitch,

Thanks for all the wonderful works!!

I am wondering if Joomla! can use adodb as database abstract layer for 
future development and about to take a closer look, and here comes your 
email!

We are currently use MySQL 4.0 and 4.1 for production, a new project 
will be out soon with MySQL 5.

Joomla! with PostgreSQL is certainly a PLUS, since it's another true 
enterprise level open source project.


Thanks again!  Cheers!

Best,

Keayi Cora



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>Hi folks,
>
>Been quiet over here, as we are finally kicking the 1.1 release into
>alpha and that means (drumroll) that it is time to start work on 1.2
>:-D
>
>That means I'd like to get some feedback from you on what your
>environments are, and what databases you would like to see supported
>by the core.
>
>1.2 has our newfangled database connector approach, where each
>database gets a native driver. Right now we are planning on providing
>drivers for mysql, mysqli, and postgresql.
>
>With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
>
>1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your
>production environment?
>
>2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?
>
>Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this work underway!
>
>--
>Mitch Pirtle
>Joomla! Core Developer
>Open Source Matters
>
>
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Wed Nov 16 10:48:09 2005
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:48:09 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
In-Reply-To: <330532b60511140722p2cc839c5y8d46ca35d5fd78e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <330532b60511140722p2cc839c5y8d46ca35d5fd78e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330532b60511160748u20bcce9bm414201de22f83b3e@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/14/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
> With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
>
> 1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your
> production environment?
>
> 2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?
>
> Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this work underway!

*spacemonkey listens to crickets

C'mon folks, are those the only databases that everyone is interested in?

--
Mitch Pirtle
Joomla! Core Developer
Open Source Matters


From lists at zaunere.com  Wed Nov 16 10:51:36 2005
From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:51:36 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
In-Reply-To: <330532b60511160748u20bcce9bm414201de22f83b3e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a501c5eac5$a0f5b000$6401a8c0@MobileZ>



Mitch Pirtle wrote on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:48 AM:
> On 11/14/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
> > With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
> > 
> > 1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your
> > production environment?

4.1, moving to 5.0 eventually

> > 2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?

PostgreSQL would be the only other DB I'd consider for a general CMS
backend...

> > Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this
> > work underway! 
> 
> *spacemonkey listens to crickets
> 
> C'mon folks, are those the only databases that everyone is interested
> in? 

:)


---
Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
   www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com




From mwithington at PLMresearch.com  Wed Nov 16 11:04:42 2005
From: mwithington at PLMresearch.com (Mark Withington)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:04:42 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
Message-ID: <1F3CD8DDFB6A9B4C9B8DD06E4A7DE358D6A56C@network.PLMresearch.com>

I agree with Hans, Postgre and 5.0

I presume you've chosen not to go the abstraction route?

--------------------------
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PLMresearch
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m: 508-801-0181
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org 
> [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Hans Zaunere
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:52 AM
> To: 'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'
> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mitch Pirtle wrote on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:48 AM:
> > On 11/14/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
> > > 
> > > 1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your 
> > > production environment?
> 
> 4.1, moving to 5.0 eventually
> 
> > > 2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?
> 
> PostgreSQL would be the only other DB I'd consider for a 
> general CMS backend...
> 
> > > Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this 
> > > work underway!
> > 
> > *spacemonkey listens to crickets
> > 
> > C'mon folks, are those the only databases that everyone is 
> interested 
> > in?
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> ---
> Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
>    www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com
> 
> 
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Wed Nov 16 12:01:58 2005
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:01:58 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
In-Reply-To: <1F3CD8DDFB6A9B4C9B8DD06E4A7DE358D6A56C@network.PLMresearch.com>
References: <1F3CD8DDFB6A9B4C9B8DD06E4A7DE358D6A56C@network.PLMresearch.com>
Message-ID: <330532b60511160901w5532389nd75381eb698b49e0@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/16/05, Mark Withington <mwithington at plmresearch.com> wrote:
> I agree with Hans, Postgre and 5.0
>
> I presume you've chosen not to go the abstraction route?

That presumption is correct ;-)

After working with several external libraries and performance testing,
we've decided that abstracting the abstraction layer just wasn't
justified. For us, we are taking a very ADOdb-like approach, and
providing database connectors/drivers as part of the core of the
system.

This is good news for everyone, as we are not tied to an external
library just to connect to a database, and also the community is free
to provide drivers for whatever data source they want - and this
includes 3rd party  developers as well.

--
Mitch Pirtle
Joomla! Core Developer
Open Source Matters


From jphelps at clearmark.com  Wed Nov 16 13:27:38 2005
From: jphelps at clearmark.com (Jeff Phelps Clearmark)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:27:38 -0500
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3
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A number of my sites are running mysql 3.23.  The hosting company don't 
plan to upgrade anytime soon,  although I will be mvcing these sites to 
a different hoster for just that reason.

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>Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:48:09 -0500
>From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
>To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
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>On 11/14/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
>>
>>1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your
>>production environment?
>>
>>2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?
>>
>>Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this work underway!
>>    
>>
>
>*spacemonkey listens to crickets
>
>C'mon folks, are those the only databases that everyone is interested in?
>
>--
>Mitch Pirtle
>Joomla! Core Developer
>Open Source Matters
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:51:36 -0500
>From: "Hans Zaunere" <lists at zaunere.com>
>Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
>To: "'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>Message-ID: <00a501c5eac5$a0f5b000$6401a8c0 at MobileZ>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
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>
>
>Mitch Pirtle wrote on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:48 AM:
>  
>
>>On 11/14/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
>>>
>>>1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your
>>>production environment?
>>>      
>>>
>
>4.1, moving to 5.0 eventually
>
>  
>
>>>2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?
>>>      
>>>
>
>PostgreSQL would be the only other DB I'd consider for a general CMS
>backend...
>
>  
>
>>>Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this
>>>work underway! 
>>>      
>>>
>>*spacemonkey listens to crickets
>>
>>C'mon folks, are those the only databases that everyone is interested
>>in? 
>>    
>>
>
>:)
>
>
>---
>Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
>   www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:04:42 -0500
>From: Mark Withington <mwithington at PLMresearch.com>
>Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
>To: "'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>Message-ID:
>	<1F3CD8DDFB6A9B4C9B8DD06E4A7DE358D6A56C at network.PLMresearch.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>I agree with Hans, Postgre and 5.0
>
>I presume you've chosen not to go the abstraction route?
>
>--------------------------
>Mark L. Withington
>PLMresearch
>v: 508-746-2383
>m: 508-801-0181
>AIM/MSN/Skype: PLMresearch
>Yahoo:  PLMresearch2000
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org 
>>[mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Hans Zaunere
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:52 AM
>>To: 'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'
>>Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Mitch Pirtle wrote on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:48 AM:
>>    
>>
>>>On 11/14/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
>>>>
>>>>1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your 
>>>>production environment?
>>>>        
>>>>
>>4.1, moving to 5.0 eventually
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?
>>>>        
>>>>
>>PostgreSQL would be the only other DB I'd consider for a 
>>general CMS backend...
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this 
>>>>work underway!
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>*spacemonkey listens to crickets
>>>
>>>C'mon folks, are those the only databases that everyone is 
>>>      
>>>
>>interested 
>>    
>>
>>>in?
>>>      
>>>
>>:)
>>
>>
>>---
>>Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
>>   www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>New to Mambo? Get a great start here: 
>>http://forum.mamboserver.com/showthread.php?t=> 42100
>>
>>New York 
>>PHP SIG: Mambo Mailing List
>>AMP Technology
>>
>>Supporting Apache, MySQL, PHP &amp; Mambo! 
>>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>http://www.nyphp.org
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
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From jessica at xanthus.net  Wed Nov 16 14:00:58 2005
From: jessica at xanthus.net (Keayi Cora)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:00:58 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
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MySQL: 4.x and moving to 5.0

Database: PostgreSQL and DB2

cheers

Keayi Cora

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>From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
>To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
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>On 11/14/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
>>
>>1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your
>>production environment?
>>
>>2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?
>>
>>Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this work underway!
>>    
>>
>
>*spacemonkey listens to crickets
>
>C'mon folks, are those the only databases that everyone is interested in?
>
>--
>Mitch Pirtle
>Joomla! Core Developer
>Open Source Matters
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:51:36 -0500
>From: "Hans Zaunere" <lists at zaunere.com>
>Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
>To: "'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>Message-ID: <00a501c5eac5$a0f5b000$6401a8c0 at MobileZ>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
>Mitch Pirtle wrote on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:48 AM:
>  
>
>>On 11/14/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
>>>
>>>1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your
>>>production environment?
>>>      
>>>
>
>4.1, moving to 5.0 eventually
>
>  
>
>>>2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?
>>>      
>>>
>
>PostgreSQL would be the only other DB I'd consider for a general CMS
>backend...
>
>  
>
>>>Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this
>>>work underway! 
>>>      
>>>
>>*spacemonkey listens to crickets
>>
>>C'mon folks, are those the only databases that everyone is interested
>>in? 
>>    
>>
>
>:)
>
>
>---
>Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
>   www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:04:42 -0500
>From: Mark Withington <mwithington at PLMresearch.com>
>Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
>To: "'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>Message-ID:
>	<1F3CD8DDFB6A9B4C9B8DD06E4A7DE358D6A56C at network.PLMresearch.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>I agree with Hans, Postgre and 5.0
>
>I presume you've chosen not to go the abstraction route?
>
>--------------------------
>Mark L. Withington
>PLMresearch
>v: 508-746-2383
>m: 508-801-0181
>AIM/MSN/Skype: PLMresearch
>Yahoo:  PLMresearch2000
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org 
>>[mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Hans Zaunere
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:52 AM
>>To: 'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'
>>Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Mitch Pirtle wrote on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:48 AM:
>>    
>>
>>>On 11/14/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
>>>>
>>>>1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your 
>>>>production environment?
>>>>        
>>>>
>>4.1, moving to 5.0 eventually
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?
>>>>        
>>>>
>>PostgreSQL would be the only other DB I'd consider for a 
>>general CMS backend...
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this 
>>>>work underway!
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>*spacemonkey listens to crickets
>>>
>>>C'mon folks, are those the only databases that everyone is 
>>>      
>>>
>>interested 
>>    
>>
>>>in?
>>>      
>>>
>>:)
>>
>>
>>---
>>Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
>>   www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>New to Mambo? Get a great start here: 
>>http://forum.mamboserver.com/showthread.php?t=> 42100
>>
>>New York 
>>PHP SIG: Mambo Mailing List
>>AMP Technology
>>
>>Supporting Apache, MySQL, PHP &amp; Mambo! 
>>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
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>>
>>    
>>
>
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From raj at brainlink.com  Wed Nov 16 15:06:04 2005
From: raj at brainlink.com (Raj Goel)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:06:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [joomla] =?iso-8859-1?q?joomla_Digest=2C_Vol_10=2C_Issue_3?=
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Mitch,

 	Oracle support would *ROCK*.

 	We can assist with testing / trouble-shooting.

-- Raj

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> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:48:09 -0500
> From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
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> On 11/14/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
>> With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
>>
>> 1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your
>> production environment?
>>
>> 2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?
>>
>> Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this work underway!
>
> *spacemonkey listens to crickets
>
> C'mon folks, are those the only databases that everyone is interested in?
>
> --
> Mitch Pirtle
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> Open Source Matters
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:51:36 -0500
> From: "Hans Zaunere" <lists at zaunere.com>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
> To: "'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
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>
> Mitch Pirtle wrote on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:48 AM:
>> On 11/14/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
>>>
>>> 1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your
>>> production environment?
>
> 4.1, moving to 5.0 eventually
>
>>> 2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?
>
> PostgreSQL would be the only other DB I'd consider for a general CMS
> backend...
>
>>> Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this
>>> work underway!
>>
>> *spacemonkey listens to crickets
>>
>> C'mon folks, are those the only databases that everyone is interested
>> in?
>
> :)
>
>
> ---
> Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:04:42 -0500
> From: Mark Withington <mwithington at PLMresearch.com>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
> To: "'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
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> I agree with Hans, Postgre and 5.0
>
> I presume you've chosen not to go the abstraction route?
>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org
>> [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Hans Zaunere
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:52 AM
>> To: 'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mitch Pirtle wrote on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:48 AM:
>>> On 11/14/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> With that in mind, I got two questions for you:
>>>>
>>>> 1) If you are using MySQL, what version are you using in your
>>>> production environment?
>>
>> 4.1, moving to 5.0 eventually
>>
>>>> 2) Beyond MySQL, what other database(s) do you need support for?
>>
>> PostgreSQL would be the only other DB I'd consider for a
>> general CMS backend...
>>
>>>> Looking forward to your feedback, and excited to be getting this
>>>> work underway!
>>>
>>> *spacemonkey listens to crickets
>>>
>>> C'mon folks, are those the only databases that everyone is
>> interested
>>> in?
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
>>    www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com
>>
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From norman at enorm2.com  Wed Nov 16 15:44:06 2005
From: norman at enorm2.com (Norman ONeil)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:44:06 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
In-Reply-To: <330532b60511160901w5532389nd75381eb698b49e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1F3CD8DDFB6A9B4C9B8DD06E4A7DE358D6A56C@network.PLMresearch.com>
	<330532b60511160901w5532389nd75381eb698b49e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4a438e0a2a00259e0d7b6cd85dad817b@enorm2.com>

I know this may raise a few eyebrows, but mssql wouldn't hurt either.

On Nov 16, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote:

> On 11/16/05, Mark Withington <mwithington at plmresearch.com> wrote:
>> I agree with Hans, Postgre and 5.0
>>
>> I presume you've chosen not to go the abstraction route?
>
> That presumption is correct ;-)
>
> After working with several external libraries and performance testing,
> we've decided that abstracting the abstraction layer just wasn't
> justified. For us, we are taking a very ADOdb-like approach, and
> providing database connectors/drivers as part of the core of the
> system.
>
> This is good news for everyone, as we are not tied to an external
> library just to connect to a database, and also the community is free
> to provide drivers for whatever data source they want - and this
> includes 3rd party  developers as well.
>
> --
> Mitch Pirtle
> Joomla! Core Developer
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From cozimek at picnet.net  Thu Nov 17 07:53:40 2005
From: cozimek at picnet.net (Ryan W. Ozimek)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:53:40 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you
In-Reply-To: <4a438e0a2a00259e0d7b6cd85dad817b@enorm2.com>
Message-ID: <20051117125347.3D1DBA86DE@virtu.nyphp.org>

Hey Mitch,

We're sticking with MySQL: 4.x and moving to 5.0 later next year.  Other DB
support would be great though for clients that have incumbent systems they
can't move from.  Of them, the top choice would be, gulp, MS SQL.

-Ryan 

-----Original Message-----
From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Norman ONeil
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:44 PM
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla
Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla!, databases, and you

I know this may raise a few eyebrows, but mssql wouldn't hurt either.

On Nov 16, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote:

> On 11/16/05, Mark Withington <mwithington at plmresearch.com> wrote:
>> I agree with Hans, Postgre and 5.0
>>
>> I presume you've chosen not to go the abstraction route?
>
> That presumption is correct ;-)
>
> After working with several external libraries and performance testing, 
> we've decided that abstracting the abstraction layer just wasn't 
> justified. For us, we are taking a very ADOdb-like approach, and 
> providing database connectors/drivers as part of the core of the 
> system.
>
> This is good news for everyone, as we are not tied to an external 
> library just to connect to a database, and also the community is free 
> to provide drivers for whatever data source they want - and this 
> includes 3rd party  developers as well.
>
> --
> Mitch Pirtle
> Joomla! Core Developer
> Open Source Matters
> _______________________________________________
> New to Mambo? Get a great start here:
> http://forum.mamboserver.com/showthread.php?t=42100
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> http://www.nyphp.org
>
>
>
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eNorm
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Portsmouth, NH 03801
603 431 0868
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Nov 21 10:40:25 2005
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:40:25 -0500
Subject: [joomla] 1.0.4 ships, closes CRITICAL REMOTE EXPLOIT
Message-ID: <330532b60511210740r13170d70j39c23d80c6cc1758@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

Been a long weekend here, the script kiddies found a remote exploit
and are now scouring the web for unpatched sites and installing
rootkits on the ones that are found. The attacks are now automated, so
all sites are encouraged to upgrade immediately.

The announcement can be found here:

http://www.joomla.org/content/view/498/74/


From kirill at hostnetservices.com  Mon Nov 21 11:20:24 2005
From: kirill at hostnetservices.com (kirill at hostnetservices.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:20:24 -0500
Subject: [joomla] 1.0.4 ships, closes CRITICAL REMOTE EXPLOIT
In-Reply-To: <330532b60511210740r13170d70j39c23d80c6cc1758@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OFEF2903B6.5A7FE675-ON852570C0.00599A07-852570C0.0059C2CE@abadona.com>

Mitch,

Since it is impossible to download the patches at present,  what  can be 
disabled to prevent the critical exploits.

Thanks.

Kirill

Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> 
11/21/2005 10:40 AM
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Hi folks,

Been a long weekend here, the script kiddies found a remote exploit
and are now scouring the web for unpatched sites and installing
rootkits on the ones that are found. The attacks are now automated, so
all sites are encouraged to upgrade immediately.

The announcement can be found here:

http://www.joomla.org/content/view/498/74/
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Nov 21 11:36:43 2005
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:36:43 -0500
Subject: [joomla] 1.0.4 ships, closes CRITICAL REMOTE EXPLOIT
In-Reply-To: <OFEF2903B6.5A7FE675-ON852570C0.00599A07-852570C0.0059C2CE@abadona.com>
References: <330532b60511210740r13170d70j39c23d80c6cc1758@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFEF2903B6.5A7FE675-ON852570C0.00599A07-852570C0.0059C2CE@abadona.com>
Message-ID: <330532b60511210836u6e1d10a1s87deb35ba848f610@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/21/05, kirill at hostnetservices.com <kirill at hostnetservices.com> wrote:
>
> Since it is impossible to download the patches at present,  what  can be disabled to prevent the critical exploits.

What do you mean? You can get them right here:

http://developer.joomla.org/sf/frs/do/viewRelease/projects.joomla/frs.joomla_1_0.1_0_4

-- Mitch


From kirill at hostnetservices.com  Mon Nov 21 12:01:22 2005
From: kirill at hostnetservices.com (kirill at hostnetservices.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:01:22 -0500
Subject: [joomla] 1.0.4 ships, closes CRITICAL REMOTE EXPLOIT
In-Reply-To: <330532b60511210836u6e1d10a1s87deb35ba848f610@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF59B94CED.8B5F6860-ON852570C0.005D1FED-852570C0.005D8283@abadona.com>

When I try to download a patch, it goes half way fast and then it stops. I 
do not have issues downloading from other sites. This is with IE and 
Firefox.


Kirill

Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> 
11/21/2005 11:36 AM
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On 11/21/05, kirill at hostnetservices.com <kirill at hostnetservices.com> 
wrote:
>
> Since it is impossible to download the patches at present,  what  can be 
disabled to prevent the critical exploits.

What do you mean? You can get them right here:

http://developer.joomla.org/sf/frs/do/viewRelease/projects.joomla/frs.joomla_1_0.1_0_4


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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Nov 21 13:42:51 2005
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:42:51 -0500
Subject: [joomla] 1.0.4 ships, closes CRITICAL REMOTE EXPLOIT
In-Reply-To: <OF59B94CED.8B5F6860-ON852570C0.005D1FED-852570C0.005D8283@abadona.com>
References: <330532b60511210836u6e1d10a1s87deb35ba848f610@mail.gmail.com>
	<OF59B94CED.8B5F6860-ON852570C0.005D1FED-852570C0.005D8283@abadona.com>
Message-ID: <330532b60511211042y561e95ex833b7368e3096fe4@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/21/05, kirill at hostnetservices.com <kirill at hostnetservices.com> wrote:
>
> When I try to download a patch, it goes half way fast and then it stops.  I do not have issues downloading from other sites. This is with IE and Firefox.

Please tell me which patch you are trying to download, and I can test/fix.

-- Mitch


From kirill at hostnetservices.com  Mon Nov 21 13:52:04 2005
From: kirill at hostnetservices.com (kirill at hostnetservices.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:52:04 -0500
Subject: [joomla] 1.0.4 ships, closes CRITICAL REMOTE EXPLOIT
In-Reply-To: <330532b60511211042y561e95ex833b7368e3096fe4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF41B8452B.B583C9E1-ON852570C0.0066FBC4-852570C0.0067A546@abadona.com>

I download from a neighbor - my ISP is having issues. 

Is this the same issue

http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=870

And is this a valid manual patch:


$protects = array('_REQUEST', '_GET', '_POST', '_COOKIE', '_FILES', 
'_SERVER', '_ENV', 'GLOBALS', '_SESSION');

foreach ($protects as $protect) {
    if ( in_array($protect , array_keys($_REQUEST)) ||
         in_array($protect , array_keys($_GET)) ||
         in_array($protect , array_keys($_POST)) ||
         in_array($protect , array_keys($_COOKIE)) ||
         in_array($protect , array_keys($_FILES))) {
        die("Invalid Request.");
    }
} 



Thanks,

Kirill






Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> 
11/21/2005 01:42 PM
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On 11/21/05, kirill at hostnetservices.com <kirill at hostnetservices.com> 
wrote:
>
> When I try to download a patch, it goes half way fast and then it stops. 
 I do not have issues downloading from other sites. This is with IE and 
Firefox.

Please tell me which patch you are trying to download, and I can test/fix.

-- Mitch
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Nov 21 14:07:46 2005
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:07:46 -0500
Subject: [joomla] 1.0.4 ships, closes CRITICAL REMOTE EXPLOIT
In-Reply-To: <OF41B8452B.B583C9E1-ON852570C0.0066FBC4-852570C0.0067A546@abadona.com>
References: <330532b60511211042y561e95ex833b7368e3096fe4@mail.gmail.com>
	<OF41B8452B.B583C9E1-ON852570C0.0066FBC4-852570C0.0067A546@abadona.com>
Message-ID: <330532b60511211107q2ce72c67g94e60983035709ea@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/21/05, kirill at hostnetservices.com <kirill at hostnetservices.com> wrote:
>
> I download from a neighbor - my ISP is having issues.

*spacemonkey wipes forehead

I'm glad to hear we are not having problems with the forge as well LOL

> Is this the same issue
>
> http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=870
>
> And is this a valid manual patch:

Yup, that is the one. You can either patch or untar the new
distribution on top of your existing site (just remember to remove the
installation directory).

I would not just apply that one manual fix, as it really doesn't cover
the full scope of the problem.

-- Mitch


From gisolfi at us.ibm.com  Tue Nov 22 08:07:06 2005
From: gisolfi at us.ibm.com (Dan Gisolfi)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 06:07:06 -0700
Subject: [joomla] Drawbacks of running Joomla on PHP5 as CGI
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From yournway at gmail.com  Tue Nov 22 08:52:50 2005
From: yournway at gmail.com (Alberto dos Santos)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:52:50 +0000
Subject: [joomla] Drawbacks of running Joomla on PHP5 as CGI
In-Reply-To: <OFBCA5AF35.B7A9177F-ON852570C1.00479EFC-852570C1.0047E849@us.ibm.com>
References: <OFBCA5AF35.B7A9177F-ON852570C1.00479EFC-852570C1.0047E849@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <edce57650511220552k2a8954f4o@mail.gmail.com>

Mitch, how about changing this signature here???
> _______________________________________________
> New to Mambo? Get a great start here:
> http://forum.mamboserver.com/showthread.php?t=42100
>


--
Alberto dos Santos
Consultor em TI
IT Consultant

http://www.yournway.com
A internet ? sua maneira.
The Internet your own way.


From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Nov 28 09:58:49 2005
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:58:49 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Drawbacks of running Joomla on PHP5 as CGI
In-Reply-To: <edce57650511220552k2a8954f4o@mail.gmail.com>
References: <OFBCA5AF35.B7A9177F-ON852570C1.00479EFC-852570C1.0047E849@us.ibm.com>
	<edce57650511220552k2a8954f4o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330532b60511280658j69baf446l83826d12cb8d4713@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/22/05, Alberto dos Santos <yournway at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mitch, how about changing this signature here???
> > _______________________________________________
> > New to Mambo? Get a great start here:
> > http://forum.mamboserver.com/showthread.php?t=42100

Hey Alberto, nice save. Hopefully this should do the trick.

-- Mitch, waiting to see if the footers have been updated or not


From stephen at musgrave.org  Wed Nov 30 09:04:04 2005
From: stephen at musgrave.org (Stephen Musgrave)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:04:04 -0000
Subject: [joomla] Joomla (Mambo) Hack?
Message-ID: <9a69596ebc1e8a748ca59541d275ece4@musgrave.org>

Hello -

I installed Mambo about a year ago for a client and the night before 
Thanksgiving, the home page was defaced (and plenty of other files were 
uploaded to the server but didn't overwrite Mambo files).

I'm wondering if it is a Mambo exploit or not - I thought the list 
would know.  And if not, if there is directory of exploits and their 
descriptions so that I may determine what happened.

The hack was done by "A n o m a l y   1 n   t h e   S y s t e m C r E 
W" (A1TS).  Heard of these guys?

Mambo Version: Mambo 4.5.1a Stable [Three For Rum] 29/09/2004 20:11 GMT

Here's a screen-shot of what it looked like:

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